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secretary of state john kerry said now it is up to both sides to get to work. >> i understand the skepticism. i don't share it and i don't think we have time for it. i firmly believe the leaders, the negotiators and citizens invested in this effort can make peace for one simple reason -- because they must. a viable two-state solution is the only way this conflict can end and there is not much time to achieve it and there is no other alternative. bargaining chip. in chattanooga today, president obama will off house republicans a corporate tax rate cut if they'll invest in creating jobs. will that be enough to break the budget stalemate? breaking bread. hillary clinton makes the d.c. rounds, first lunch with the president, then breakfast with boo biden. was their potential 2016 match-up on the menu. on the campaign trail today, anthony weiner brushed aside
reports he's incurred the wrath of the clintons. >> i am not terribly interested in what people who are not voters in the city of new york have to say. i am focused like a laser beam on their interests. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we are expecting bradley manning's verdict at any moment. we'll have that for you when it happens. but first, it is the most important meal of the day and this morning, former secretary of state hillary clinton enjoyed breakfast with her former senate colleague and possible 2016 presidential primary adversary, vice president joe biden, on his turf at his house. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza, msnbc contributor, managing editor of postpolitics.com, politico's senior reporter mag ihaberman
and peter alexander, a new dad. to you first, peter. let's talk about the president's role today. he's just arrived in chattanooga, tennessee. he's going to offer an olive branch to republicans. is that enough? >> reporter: we'll see. so far it doesn't look like the republicans are very satisfied with what they expect to hear from the president. we've already heard from speaker john boehner's office. they insist that they didn't even hear from the president in advance. white house says that's not the case, they reached out early. here's what's at stake. president is going to give these speeches, trying to tee up sort of the conversation, what he believes is common sense ideas to help the middle class. this is what the president is calling a grand bargain for middle class jobs. this speech that will take place at an amazon distribution center. amazon announcing that it is going to add about 7,000 new jobs across the country tod. today the president is going to be saying he's up for what the white house describes as a concession for corporate tax reform in exchange for some job
investments, specific investments, in things like infrastructure and manufacturing, various types of jobs and investments that the president believes is necessary to stimulate the economy right now. >> what about these breakfasts? the lunch at the white house? chris cillizza, hillary clinton and the president having lunch outside. a beautiful day. they had pasta, they had salad, they had grilled chicken. and now a day later, the next day, she's at the vice president's residence for scrambled eggs. what was that all about? >> i mean, look. josh ernest who is a very nice guy and put in a tough position deputy white house communications director, i believe, said friendship was the main topic of discussion yesterday between president obama and hillary clinton. look. i mean i don't know if talking about the cons sent of friendship can sustain a full lunch. never worked for me. look, the truth of the matter is, i'm sure they talked about quite a number of things.
israel and the middle east talks, russia, libya. there's so many issues out there as secretary of state. then i also can't imagine that these two people who faced off against one another in 2008 didn't talk a little bit of politics. maybe not about their own political futures but at least about politics. i actually find that joe biden/hillary clinton breakfast even more potentially compelling because these are two people who very well could run against one another. if i had to choose between being a fly on the wall, i'd have actually taken the breakfast this morning as opposed to the lunch yesterday. >> especially after his interview with "gq" where he talked about the portraits that he's got of the former vice presidents who have become president. not making any secret, not in conversations that a lot of us have had with people around him, about his intentions, depending of course, on what she does, because it is widely believed that she would sort of clear the field if things are the same as they are today. but speaking of today, that little mayor's race in new york. maggie haberman, you have been
all over this. my condolences. i have the same problem myself. anthony weiner deflecting impugning criticism from the cnns saying he's not going to worry about the clintons. then these quotes. talk about this interview in the new york day daily news today. question, there is no one you are sexting now. wiener, can you quibble about beginnings, middles and ends but what we are talking about is over a year ago. the best answer to that is, no, there isn't, if that's the truth. then there is another quote from there, from that interview with the daily news -- is there yet another woman's shoe about to drop in this campaign and wiener says, i have no idea. these are people who i thought were friends. depends on how you defined friendship. people i trusted when i communicated with them but who knows what they might do now but none of it is new, it's all old stuff so i'll be in this race for at least the next 44 days and i think i can win.
that's not what the quinnipiac poll is saying because's dropped to fourth place. >> he's dropped to fourth place. i would note that everybody is bunched up pretty close within that poll. it is a very, very fluid democratic primary, much more fluid than we have seen in a pretty long time in this city. but yes, to your point, nobody at this point thinks that anthony weiner is going to be mayor except for anthony weiner. nobody except for anthony weiner thinks anthony weiner is likely to make the run-off. his comments about the clintons yesterday, he said he didn't mean it as any disrespect but it is very hard to interpret it as anything else when he gets asked a direct question. the clintons themselves have directly stayed out of this issue. they've stayed out of this entire race for a variety of reasons. but this is becoming very messy and for people around the clintons who love wiener's wife, huma, this is becoming very, very painful. >> in fact, the clintons have made it a point, they didn't want to seem to be aggressively pushing him. that would not help anybody involved and it would be disrespectful to huma, whom they
do love. but a lot of people in this circle and the circle of friends, maggie, are just nonplussed by this. they don't understand what wiener is up to but it is very hard to see how this is not with nobody intending it, not also hurting hillary clinton down the road by just resurrecting all this old stuff that was really buried by her service in the cabinet. >> resurrecting all this old stuff and i think serving -- it is another stress test this year, what was supposed to be a pretty quiet year for the clintons. they spent several months dealing with benghazi. they're going to deal with questions in terms what have she's doing on politics when she does some form of campaigning for terry mccakauauliffe in vir. in terms of whether a staffer's behavior or interest or term life will matter for hillary clinton in two years, i think that's unlikely and that's what a lot of democrats will say. but it is hard to underestimate the role that she plays, huma,
in hillary's world. >> i'm going to interrupt you guys. we have breaking news. we are just getting the bradley manning verdict. manning has been charged with 21 counts, including espionage and aiding the enemy after he released more than 7,000 documents to wikileaks. jim miklaszewski is at the pentagon and co-director of the liberty and national security program at the brennan center for justice is here with me on the set. mick, go ahead. >> andrea, just minutes ago the military judge in the bradley manning trial at ft. meade, maryland, ruled that private 1st class bradley manning, she found him not guilty for aiding the enemy. that was charge one. she did, however, find him guilty for illegally releasing classified documents knowing that they would be accessible to the enemy and throughout the 21
charges, there are a number of cases in which bradley manning is accused of disobeying orders and illegally leaking documents. but the most serious charge faced by bradley manning in this case, aiding the enemy, the military judge found manning not guilty. now, if you take the second and third charges which have a number of specifications included in all of them, it could amount to a total sentence of 154 years if compounded. if each charge and each sentence was arddded consecutively to th other but it is unclear because the judge at this point may take two or three more weeks to actually sentence bradley manning. but legal experts have argued for some time that the charge of illegally -- or aiding the enemy would be a hard one to prove, and they didn't think that the
prosecution had actually proven that charge because there is a level of intent involved in that charge and there was no indication, no evidence presented in the court that bradley manning himself, when he leaked the documents, intended that they would end up in the hands of the enemy. so again, found not guilty on the most serious charge, but found guilty on charges 2 and 3 which carry 20 other specifications and could amount, if he got the maximum sentence, to a total of 154 years in prison. the aiding the enemy charge, by the way, carries a maximum sentence of life. it's not believed that bradley manning in the end, by legal experts, would be sentenced to the 154 years. but at this point, the judge has at least probably two or three more weeks before she issues the sentences. andrea? >> thanks to jim miklaszewski. with me here is elizabeth
guetin. the issue of intent was central to the issue of the judge. >> the issue of intent was at the center of almost all of the charges that were brought against him. i'm not sure whether the espionage act was one of the charges. there were actually eight counts of that on which the judge found manning guilty. from the sentence i have to assume he was found guilty on those charges. intent was an issue there as well but it was a slightly different form of irn tent. for aiding the enemy, the judge held that bradley manning merely had to know that his disclosures were going to reach the enemy, were going to reach al qaeda. and the judge didn't -- the government just didn't have the evidence. just didn't have the direct or circumstantial evidence on that point. on the espionage act charges, bradley manning had to have reason to believe that his disclosures would harm national security and obviously the judge found that the government did present evidence on that. >> he had already pleaded guilty to a lesser charge.
he in doing that was trying to presumably his legal defense was trying to clear the decks and hope that they could avoid these more serious convictions which do involve very serious sentencing time, depending on what the judge decides. >> that's right. i mean the charges that he's pled guilty to already carry a sentence of up to 20 years and now there are these charges on top of that. but one of the things that manning's lawyers were trying to do in entering this plea was to show that manning to some degree was taking more responsibility for his actions and that could also influence the judge's thinking when she decides what sentence to impose on him. >> how does this case fit in with -- fit within the larger rubric of how this administration, this justice department, this pentagon has approached these national security cases. >> well, it is a historic verdict, even though manning was acquitted on the aiding the enemy charge because historically the espionage act charges have been brought against spies and against
traitors and not against people who leaked information to the media with no ill intent. >> so if you call him a whistle-blower as clearly wikileaks does, but as some advocates do, this is someone who is not your classic spy. this is not jonathan pollard. this is not someone who's trying to help a foreign country directly. >> exactly. and this administration has brought seven prosecutions, espionage act prosecutions, against people who leaked information to the media with no apparent intent to help the enemy. and that is against three such prosecutions in all of the administrations before this one. so it really is part of the pattern we're seeing and this is the first conviction by a judge after trial -- a judge or jury -- after trial since the only other conviction which was in 1985. >> this is a very big case indeed. elizabeth goitein, thank you for your expertise from the brennan center. our thanks to jim miklaszewski
at the pentagon. a new threat today at the florida gas plant that caught fire and a series of charge explosions last night. rescue workers found a new leak in one of the 30,000 gallon propane tanks. the media there have been asked to move back as firefighters sprayed the tank to avoid another explosion. all workers have been accounted for after the fire started last night that sent 100-foot flames into the air and smashparked multiple fires. eight people were injured and the neighborhood around the plant was evacuated. today officials are still investigating what caused the fire. in a press conference this morning, the local fire chief said he was awakened by the sound of the explosions. >> last night about 10:30 we had our first ignition over here at the blue rhino plant. i live about two or three miles away from here as the crow flies and it shook my house. so i knew it was bad right off the bat. so responded here with our crews. we've been here through the
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the battle over government surveillance programs is being fought by a unique coalition of lawmakers. oregon senator ron widen serves on the intelligence committee and was one of the few lawmakers sounding alarms for years, though without being able to explain why because of the secrecy of his position long before edward snowden went public. senator, thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> in this context, what is your view today of edward snowden in the moscow airport, asking for asylum in russia, hardly a country that has freedom of expression or freedom of rights. and certainly a country with an enormous surveillance and intelligence apparatus.
so is it appropriate for snowden to be seeking asylum, permanent or temporary, in russia? >> andrea, i've had kind of two viewpoints with respect to mr. snowden. first of all, this debate should have started long, long, long ago by elected officials and not by government contractors. and second, when you have an individual who's been charged criminally -- of course he's been charged by espionage -- i don't get into commenting on those kinds of issues. >> but, if you had a whistle plo blower bllike mr. snowden hypothetically and you knew were you signaling and speaking out as best you could, there were other sympathetic witnesses on the hill, in the intelligence community roles, on the committees, could he have gone, if not to the ig, to he have gone to you? yes, it would have been career ending but he knew he was blowing up his career anyway. but could he have sought protection from you and stayed within the united states rather
than going to china, letting them get access presumably to his laptops, going to russia and having all this stuff, really damaging stuff, about what we do to china and what we do to russia get out there so quickly. >> andrea, the cham chllenging of this is the classification rules are exceptionally cumb cumberso cumbersome. b one of the us a expects about this debate that i feel strongly about, make sure we protect secret operations but you can't protect secret law. that's not in line with the american people. and what i think is going on now -- and you see this in this big debate, whether it is mr. snowden or anybody else -- i'm not allowed to tap out the truth in morse code in a way that's consistent with the classification rules. but we have been able to use those classification rules to make sure that the public really understands what's going on.
for example, i was able to get declassified a fisa court finding, foreign intelligence surveillance court finding, that the fourth amendment had been violated in at least one instance. we also were able to eliminate antiwhistle-blower provisions from a piece of legislation. so it is cumbersome. i understand that. but we're still able, even with these difficult rules, to show we're standing up for our values and making sure people understand that liberty and security aren't mutually exclusive. >> you and some of your unlikely allies have now changed the debate and we saw this in the house vote where they almost overturned the surveillance programs by defunding them though. presumably the senate would have done differently and the president would have vetoed it. but it was a very significant change in atmosphere. what can you accomplish now? do you think can you get adversarial proceedings in front of the fisa court or different appointment procedure for the fisa judges? >> our side
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every day. senators and house members, regardless of political philosophy, are seeing that the fisa court process is one of the most one-sided approaches in american government. i know of no other court that doesn't have some kind of ai adversarial discussion where there are two points of view. i think starting tomorrow
in the judiciary committee we'll see a debate about the patriot act and particularly how you take the current language that talks about relevance and let it morph into the collection of millions and millions of phone record on law abiding americans. also we had a big development last friday when general clapper, the head of the intelligence agencies, admitted that the community had violated these court orders on bulk phone record collection and i'll tell your viewers that those violations are significantly more troubling than the government has stated. >> well, when you say things like that, we all listen because we know that you can't spell it
out but last time you were hinting at it and then we later learned a lot more details, of course. >> well, they did say last friday that there had been violations of those court orders with respect to the bulk phone record collection. so that's on the record. i'll tell you those violations are more serious than they stated. >> do you think there is a way that the phone companies could end up keeping these records rather than the government? would that be an improvement? >> i think the idea of just contracting all this out to the phone companies still raises substantial privacy issues. the real question is what we said in this country is, yes, curety is critical. it is a dangerous time. we just saw that through the boston marathon but we shouldn't be vacuuming up millions and millions of phone records on law abiding americans. senator udall and i, my colleagues, mike lee, oep n the
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qualify as news. it is just a further left version after widely panned plan he already proposed two years ago. this time with extra goodies for tax and spend liberals. >> is this dead on arrival? >> it shouldn't be. i mean what the president was saying today, andrea, was that while we're still working and hoping to get a grand bargain on the larger fiscal issues, it shouldn't stop us from seeking grand bargains on other avenues for job creation for middle class americans. and we all know that corporate tax bill alone is unlikely to pass, an infrastructure bill alone is unlikely to pass. yet, most business leaders and most experts believe both of these things together would be good for job creation and good for the middle class so the president put forward a new bargain saying that he would be willing to do corporate tax renor reform alone that would lower the top rate to 28%. lower manufacturing to 25%.
have the new minimum tax on foreign earning. but that if we were going to decouple that from our larger fiscal goefls raising revenue on higher income americans that it had to be part of a consensus package that would involve things like infrastructure skills, manufacturing. this is what the american public would like to see us doing, looking for compromises, packages, new bargains that are good for the middle class, good for job growth and just because we're struggling to come up with an agreement on the larger fiscal package shouldn't mean we're not -- shouldn't be trying to find new bargains to help the middle class. that's what the president's proposing today. there's really no reason that this should not start a new conversation about investing in job growth for the middle class. >> we know that dennis mcdonough, the white house chief of staff, is going to be meeting with a number of republicans even as the president meets with some democrats tomorrow on capitol hill. but in one of the criticisms
that the "washington post" put out this weekend, was that in the president's first economic beach at knox college he didn't mention entitlement reform. the. >> that's not true at all. president's made very clear that the larger fiscal package that he has proposed, which is a pro-growth fiscal package that calls for an investment now, leaving room to invest in education and research, and dealing with long-term entitlement reform, as well as raising some additional revenues, is very much still on the table. he putexplicit offer to speaker boehner and we are still having conversations about that. so that's still on the table. but andrea, just we have one grand bargain that we can do on the fiscal side that would be
good for growth does not mean we should not be looking for every way possible to grow this economy in a way that benefits middle class americans. so the president put forward a different avenue, a different kind of grand bargain for job growth which says that while we're debating how much -- the issue of raising revenue on the individual side, on high-income individuals, as part of a larger fiscal deal that would include entitlement reform, here is another way we can make progress. not in place of the grand bargain on fiscal discipline, but in addition, a barring than would lower corporate tax rates, lower tax expenditures and loopholes so we can attract more jobs here and do what the chamber of commerce and the afl and cio agree we should be doing, which is investing more in our infrastructure and other things that i think have broad bipartisan appeal like strengthening community colleges to close skill gaps around the country, increasing manufacturing innovation hubs that attract more jobs.
high-wage jobs and high-wage services to our shores. >> but gene, arguably the most important economic decision this president is going to make, or maybe any president, is going to be the new fed chairman to succeed ben bernanke. and you were featured prominently along with some of your other former colleagues in today's "new york times" lead editorial blaming the boys' club, if you will, of economic policymakers for ganging up on janet yellin, the vice chair of the fed. the editorial is really scathing in its criticism of you, bob ruben, all on behalf of larry summers, the other chief rival. is there sexism afoot in these fed decisions? >> you know, andrea, the only person that i have given my opinion to is the president of the united states. and we honor his privacy and confidentiality in making that decision so anybody who writes about the positions of myself or somebody is purely speculating and the person who will make
that announcement about the fed will be the president of the united states. i think that most of the people being mentioned are people i've worked with. i have the greatest respect for them in terms of their intellect, what type of people they are. and i have only positive things to say about really all of the peak candidates that you've heard mentioned in the press recently. >> gene sperling, thank you very much from the north lawn. we await the president's speech in the next hour. thanks. and we'll be right back. it starts with something little, like taking a first step. and then another. and another. and if you do it. and your friends do it. and their friends do it... soon we'll be walking our way to awareness, support and an end to alzheimer's disease. and that? that would be big. grab your friends and family and start a team today.
weeks in an as yet to be determined location. joining me now, israel's ambassador to the u.s., michael oren. >> -- to have an independent, sovereign state. >> and michael oren is with us. we were just listening to a sound bite. i wanted to play some sound of the israeli minister who is the counterpart to arakat. if we have that available. >> it's time for the palestinian people to have an independent, sovereign state of their own. it is time for the palestinians to live in peace, freedom and dignity within their own independent sovereign state. >> we all know that it's not going to be easy. it's going to be hard with ups and downs. but i can assure you that these negotiations -- in these negotiations, it is not our
intention to argue about the past but to create solutions and make decisions for the future. >> if they could be together, mr. ambassador, and not argue about the past centuries of disagreements really and certainly half-century most recently in our lifetime, that would be a big deal indeed. but the atmosphere seemed very genuine today. you just came from the state department. tell us about it. >> good afternoon. great to you with you, andrea. a very good beginning. constructive talks. good atmosphere. everybody's serious. the most important thing to remember is israel is committed to this process, we're committed to peace and we're telling to tell our people, willing to say there's going to be pain, painful concessions, important that we prepare our peoples for what lay ahead. >> now one of the things that you had to do along the way was the release that was announced, staged release, of 104
palestinian prisoners. that was certain lay signal of good faith. the palestinians are also agreeing to nine months of talks so clearly they are not going to be bringing up statehood unilaterally at the general assembly. but a lot of people are angry about the release of these prisoners. >> many of these prisoners have killed men, women and children. a very hard call for prime minister netanyahu. but anybody who doubted his commitment to peace can see that here's a man who's willing to take these very tough measures, these painful measures to explain to the people of israel why we have to do this, and that there may be further painful concessions along the road. what we need is the palestinians to do this for their people. mahmoud abbas, the palestinian president, just yesterday in cairo said he'll never give up an inch of land, he'll never let any ju live on palestinian soil. that's not not exactly preparing the ground. >> they demanded there would be
no construction even on existing settlements. we won't argue here about whether there's been new construction or not. they certainly believe so and so does the international community and the united states. settlements a big issue. so land, right of return, what to do with jerusalem. the point of these talks is to clear away the underbrush and get to final status in nine months. how is that possible after all of these decades? >> i think it has to be possible if we're going to reach peace. secretary of state kerry just said a little while ago in his remarks at the state department we're going to discuss all the core issues. you've just mentioned some of them. settlements are part of the territorial issue. territorial borders are a core issue, security, and yes, jerusalem will be a core issue. we're willing and ready to discuss all of these very complex issues because we know that's the only way to get to peace. negotiations aren't about negotiations. they're actually about getting to the peace agreement that we all want. >> secretary kerry made the point that there has been a lot less violence from the west bank back and forth with israel and
that the palestinian security has really stepped up. but hamas is not part of this deal. so some would say what's the point of negotiating with mahmoud abbas for the west bank for the palestinians when he doesn't represent the most radical, arguably, of the palestinians living in gaza. >> hoped has taken a double blow recently, by a one-two punch. in egypt the muslim brotherhood was a big backer of hamas and of syria because hamas had a close relationship with bashar al assad and with the iranians in syria. it's fallen out with them as well. so hamas has been weakened but we can still hope one day if we reach a peace agreement with the palestinian authority in the west bank and the situation becomes so materially improved in the west bank that folks in gaza will look at that and say we want that, too, and the only reason we don't have that is because of hamas. they'll get rid of hamas and join the peace process. >> how big a part of this is economic benefits to the
palestinians? >> creating an economic environment where there's growth and jobs and people become invested in stability is all good. we've long said this. we've said this for years. there's no substitute to actually negotiating and creating an actual political formula for peace. two states living side by side in mutual security, mutual recognition and peace. that is the goal. >> let's hope that that is even possible but nine months, a short timetable, but this is a start so it is great to have you here on day one. thank you very much, ambassador. meanwhile, the ousted egyptian president whose house arrest has caused weeks of violent protests was seen yesterday for the first time by a western diplomat and she reported that he is well. european union's foreign policy chief katherine ashton also emphasized her message to egypt's military about what they need to do to be considered legitimate after her meeting with mr. morsi. >> we talked for two hours. we talked in-depth. he has access to information in
terms of tv, newspapers, so we were able to talk about the situation. and we were able to talk about the need to move forward. we've made it clear that there is no place for violence in this and that peaceful demonstration is important. but also ensuring that that is done in a proper way and that the authorities have a huge responsibility to make sure that happens, as they do in every other nation. >> joining me now from cairo, nbc's ayman muhyeldin. this was a first step, perhaps, at least katherine ashton has met with morsi. what happens next? >> well, there's no doubt about it, at first it is going to be interpreted as a good faith measure for the family of mohamed morsi and certainly for his supporters and members of the muslim brotherhood for them to be able to hear from a third party that the president is doing well, that he is in good condition, that he does have access to news and does know what is going on.
that is certainly going to help at least make it a slightly more easier environment for catherine ashton to pursue further talks. but right now the challenge is going to be to get the muslim brotherhood back into the political process and that's very difficult for them because so many of their leaders are under arrest, are under persecution, they're being detained, not necessarily charged. that really has tensions here among all of the various parties really at odds. more importantly, the military and the minister of interior have suggested they are running out of patience with this pro-morsi state and may have to take action to try to break it up and that also compounds the concerns here among many people and so, too, do the consistent protests that launch from that sit-in every day to various parts of cairo. >> ayman muhyeldin in chi cro, . u actually eat them ♪ multigrain cheerios. also available in delicious peanut butter. healthy never tasted so sweet.
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that it hopes will improve the country's transportation system and the app from building america's future is called i'm stuck. even if it doesn't help, can you use it to vent. nbc news political analyst and former pennsylvania governor ed rendell vents a lot. he's the group's co-chair and an ardent supporter of hillary clinton during the 2008 presidential campaign and joins me now from new york. hey, governor. great to see you. >> hey, andrea. you're absolutely right, commuters often in their cars are yelling at the windows in frustration but now they don't have to yell anymore, they can do something. the app is you've got to log in because congressmen and senators have to know who are you. once you log in, you only have to do it once. can you send an app saying i'm stuck in traffic, i'm stuck on the tarmac, imhe's stuck back up on public transit and then there is a message and you can hit the message and if you want the pre-written message to go to your congressman, that's fine or you can write your own message. you literally can do this in 45 seconds.
you know, i am a dinosaur whether it comes to technology. i learned how to do this and i can do it in about 45 seconds to my two senators, senator toomey, senator casey and their congressman, i've been practicing. they have 55 e-mails from me saying i'm stuck. >> but in your case you're doing it from the back seat of the car. >> right. >> you can't do it while you're driving. >> we urge drivers not to do it while you're driving. that's against the law. but either a passenger can do it or do it when you get to your destination because the app is going to your congressman no matter where you are. if you're from philadelphia and you're stuck trying to get into the lincoln tunnel, you can send that message out to your congressman, your congressman and your senator and really this is important because everybody acknowledges the problem. our infrastructure used to be the best in the world. now i think we're ranked 14th. we're falling behind economically. the danger to our public safety is manifest. but no one has the guts in washington to invest money to do something about it. what we're hoping the public will do is give them a
permission slip by sending this in this app and say we know it is not easy, but we want to invest and let's do it now. as you know, we can create hundreds of create hundreds of thousands, even millions of well-paying jobs that can't be outsourced. >> that's a fascinating idea. now, speaking of being stuck, what do democrats in new york do because they're stuck with anthony weiner? this was weiner today, asked about implicit criticism from, quote, friends of clintons, that he should be getting out of the race. >> if not the clintons, what would it take to get you out of this race? >> first of all, let me make it clear. i have enormous respect for the clintons. they've been enormous friends to my wife and to my family. there should be no intent to disrespect. but i want to -- what i've been
trying to make clear is that what is important to me in this race is the ideas that animated me to run. i recognize i'm not a perfect messenger. i get that. >> not a perfect messenger. governor, what do the clintons do? you're a long-standi ining frief theirs. they can't tell him to get out of the race. this is clearly not helping hillary clinton in her future political or public service career. >> they can't tell them nor should they tell him. andrea, there were people who told me to not run for governor because no philadelphian could ever be elected governor. i won. no one should tell a candidate to get out of the race. you can tell them, look, i don't think you're doing yourself any good. obviously by the polls anthony is smart enough to know that. secondly, you're not helping the city of new york's image. he's smart enough to know that. i know he believes he would be the best mayor for new york. i think he's got to face reality. in terms of the clintons, i think they should stay out of
it. in the long run f hillary clinton becomes a candidate in 2016, no one is going to vote for or against her because of what anthony weiner did. >> ed rendell, thank you very much. thanks for being with us. >> my pleasure, andrea. >> and we'll be right back. walmart is less than $1.50. whoa! if you switch out fast-food lunch just twice a week you can save over $470.00 bucks a year. $470 bucks. that's a ton of money. yeah. save on hot pockets sandwiches backed by the low price guarantee. walmart.
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legal expenses tied to these suits? you literally couldn't make it up. >> well, how do you define it? thank you very much. that does it for us. thanks, chris. my colleague tamron hall has a look at what's next on "news nation." hi, tamron. >> coming up, breaking news. a judge finds bradley manning not guilty of the most serious charges. we'll talk with a progressive blogger, one of manning's most vocal supporters. she even visited him in prison. plus, republican leaders already pushing back on the grand bargain that president obama will deliver in his speech set to start any minute now. we'll certainly bring you the president's remarks live. plus, the latest threat from conservatives to defund obama care through a government shutdown. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
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i'm tamron hall. this is "news nation." want to take you to chattanooga, tennessee, where president obama is giving his remarks. we're expecting details on a grand bargain tied to middle class jobs. let's listen in. >> you've got the mayor of chattanoochat chattanooga. and you've got one of the finest gentlemen i know, your congressman, jim cooper. so thank you, all, for being here. so i've come here today to talk a little more about something that i was discussing last week, and that's what we need to do as a country to secure a better bargain for the middle class. a national strategy to make sure that every single person who's willing to work hard in this country has a chance to succeed in the 21st century econ